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If you don't draw yours, I won't draw mine. A police officer, working in the small town that he lives in, focusing on family and shooting and coffee, and occasionally putting some people in jail.

Tuesday, October 30, 2007

Deadly force is authorized.

Through Marko and John Shirley, we hear of the story of scumbag Paul Landingham, a 37 year old Salem, OR man who attacked and began to rape a woman on crutches. While residents of the apartments behind the scene listened and looked on, the woman called for help. NOTHING would have been done, but for a car full of good Samaritans stopping. Three men hopped out and issued Mr. Landingham the ass-whipping he so richly deserved before he was arrested by the police.

Pretty-boy, Emo-esque, whiney Keith Cole is seen on camera, telling of how terrible it was that this bastard could just try to take her humanity. . . but he did nothing. None of the other apartment residents who heard the attack did, either. Shades of Kitty Genovese. John quite rightly points out that Keith Cole should be ashamed of himself. Indeed, he must never again call himself a man. Stopping a sexual assault in progress is certainly a worthwhile time to employ deadly force, if you're not tough enough to beat the bastard up.

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Even after Tennessee v. Garner, deadly force is still authorized to re-apprehend escaped prisoners. Especially escaped armed murderers. Who just killed a cop to escape.

But the cops in Providence, RI didn't kill Esteban Carpio after he shot Det. Sgt Allen with the detective's own gun in April, 2006. They re-arrested him 45 minutes later, and he was shortly marched into a courtroom with a spitmask on. His relatives declared police brutality when they saw his swollen face. Interestingly, so did the reporters and analysts in this news story on the situation. Apparently, they were able to determine that Mr. Carpio's head injuries (which he fully recovered from) were sustained from unlawful force, rather than from the 60-foot leap from the interview room window, or from lawful struggle with him while he was being detained.

"The boy clearly took a beating," says a news woman. Carpio (the "boy") was a 26 year old man, in custody for the stabbing murder of an 81 year old woman.

It's frankly impressive that he walked into the courtroom alive and under his own steam, after having been arrested by the acquaintances of the cop he had just murdered. An FBI inquiry found no improper actions by the arresting cops.

Look-- I'm a professional cop, and I've NEVER given a late hit on an arrestee. I don't advocate it, and I never will. But in these situations-- both of which would have merited deadly force-- I frankly wouldn't have been too critical of the occasional fist or boot to the noggin of the bad guy.

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At Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:40:00 PM, Blogger none said...

Don't you just love the media?

I wish the guy had tried to resist.

At Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:11:00 PM, Blogger Don said...

I remember the Carpio case. It was the subject of some debate at ; a lot of people said he couldn't have suffered things like swollen eyes from that fall.

I couldn't say one way or another, but I know I've mistaken facial trauma for fight-related injuries more than once.

Not two months ago we treated two guys who'd jumped off a freight train in the dark, and we were convinced the first guy had gotten thrashed by somebody. My partner that night has been an EMT/fireman for ten years or more.

At Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:21:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The construction of the skull and face itself make for a limited number of places blood and other fluids can easily collect when you take a solid whack to the face.

At Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:47:00 PM, Blogger Barbara said...

Damn straight.

Maybe the families would have been happier if they'd just been shot? I'm sure they could be *ahem* accommodated next time...

At Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:18:00 AM, Blogger Old NFO said...

Probably a good thing it happened in Oregon and not our part of the country... There wouldn't have been any need for an arraignment...

At Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:16:00 AM, Blogger Jay G said...

We had an analogous case here in MA about 15 years ago. One Hector Morales opened up on a pair of cops with a sawed-off 12 gauge shotgun.

He shot once, hitting one of the police officers in the face with (fortunately for the officer) birdshot.

The officer and his partner responded, rightfully, by emptying their service weapons into him and rendering him room temperature.

The media called it "excessive force" because they emptied their weapons.

Unfucking real. Dude shoots a cop in the face with an illegal weapon (not an illegally owned weapon, but an honest-to-G-d illegally modified weapon), they respond accordingly (were they expected to take the second round?), and were called "excessive".

At Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:52:00 AM, Blogger William the Coroner said...

You don't fight the cops physically. You just don't. I would hate to be in a situation where I'm always second guessed.

At Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:28:00 PM, Blogger phlegmfatale said...

Did you notice at the end of the newscast the reporterette said "no word yet on where the woman was headed" as if that had any bearing on how or why she was raped by that foul beast. I would've been ok with someone helping him go not gently into that dark night. Permanently.

At Friday, November 02, 2007 12:08:00 PM, Blogger 5150Wife said...

Once again, I've learned something new from your ever-educational writings.

I had heard of the "bystander effect". Actually, I think I'd heard it called "bystander syndrome". I didn't know about the history behind it, though.

Thanks for the enlightenment.


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